Problems with 2 winter and 2 Radial All Seasons?

[Aric11]

I have another question in my continued quest for used tires for my used truck lol. I have the opportunity to purchase 2 sets of 2 tires for next to nothing. 2 are all reason radials, and two are winter. They are all 235 75 R15 which is exactly what I am looking for. But aside from the winter tires having a harder wear put on them while driving year round, is there any potentially major problems I need to worry about by having two sets of like sized of different styles on my truck? Also, which set should I run on the front or back? I was thinking the winters on the back and all seasons on the front. Thanks.

[tonto340]

You didn't say what kind of truck you have. If it is 4wd all tires need to be same height. Even though all the tires read 235/75R15 if they're different brands may be different heights. This would cause binding in a 4wd system, especially on dry payment. I hope this helps/

[Aric11]

I have a 95 Explorer XLT 4X4. The brand is the same, and they are all practically brand new. Less than 1000 Km's on each.

[tonto340]

You should be okay. Just make sure tire presure matches.

[Aric11]

Sweet...I will stand them on end and put a level to them all also just to be certain. Thanks for the help!

[Nichor02]

Dude, when I was growing up, we'd run mud grips on the back and streets on the front. I don't think you'll have any problems. hahahahahah

[JESTERxHEAD]

Yea you should be good to go bro!!!

yep snow tires on the back all seasons up front will help you....

[Aric11]

Ya thats what I was thinking because the fronts tend to wear quicker as a rule anyways. So I figure they will wear almost evenly with the snows on the back. But ya, $120 for the set installed with less than 1000 km's :o how can I not!?!

[JESTERxHEAD]

just make sure your ball joints are good.....bad ball joints will eat tires like rosie o'donnell eating cake.....

[Aric11]

Just did them all, and I was going to get an allignment, but wanted tires on it first lol

[JESTERxHEAD]

Thats the way to get it done!

should be good for 50k

[Aric11]

Boooo the guy sold my tires out from under me :( I told him I'd be there to get them that night and he sold them 2 hrs before I was done work for a higher bid :( Didn't even call me to let me know he'd sold them :(

Anyways, I did find another set, but the ad says 5/32" tread left...is this good, bad? What kind of tread is typical for a 225 75 r15 all season?

[JESTERxHEAD]

well that depends on the tire brand/model but I would guess .400" is full tread. and 5/32 is .156......soooooo they are a bit worn down past 60% they will get you by thru winter but not too sure how long after that "safely"

good rule of thumb...

look at the tread there are little holes in the tread that are either round or oval... if they are gone or close to gone they need to be replaced....(they are for gaging depth by sight.)

[Aric11]

Not sure of the brand, but the model on the tire says "roughrider Radial A/T"

[ampdreamer1]

in most states running winter tires all year around is not legal. also buying used tires is a very bad gamble. if they were on a car that was not maintaned properly they could be shot even if there is tread left. stop being cheap and just buy new ones in the lower price range. you will get a better ride and a longer life. so your not really spending more money over the life of the new tires. remember you get what you pay for.

[ampdreamer1]

i work in the automotive industry so i am talking from expeariance not just shooting from the hip.

[JESTERxHEAD]

in most states running winter tires all year around is not legal. also buying used tires is a very bad gamble. if they were on a car that was not maintaned properly they could be shot even if there is tread left. stop being cheap and just buy new ones in the lower price range. you will get a better ride and a longer life. so your not really spending more money over the life of the new tires. remember you get what you pay for.


Oh yea! good call there amp

good tires is worth more than their cost.... no headaches, vibrations, traction, etc...

[Aric11]

Great points except.....

1- I live in Ontario, so winter tires year round is not an issue.
2- My truck is a 95 Explorer with close to 320 000 km's on it. I plan on just getting a new vehicle come the sping time anyways, but my tires are in dire need or replacement, so does it really make any sense to spend $500-$1000 on new tires? Hell the entire truck is barely worth that as it is! Only reason I put on new ball joints is because I got them for free! lol

But having said that, I fully understand the gamble of buying used. But its no different than buying a used vehicle :) If I could afford to, or even justify buying brand new at the moment I wouldn't ask silly questions ;) I really appreciate your input though, this will deffinitely help me for future situations I may run in to. Thanks again guys!

[Nichor02]

hahahahah.. Brother, if your looking to keep from spending a lot til Spring, I would do the same thing you're doing. Never heard of free ball joints though. hahahah.. That's great stuff. Even if ya use a couple cheap used ones, and maybe have to buy two tires instead of four, you're still saving some money. Do what you have to do to get by. Good luck.

[ampdreamer1]

if your really that strapped than i can understand but if your going to keep it more than a year new is the way to go use a credit card. if your selling it like you said then sure save the money.

[Aric11]

Well the long search is over, I got my tires!

A set of 235 75 R15’s with 80% tread on rims for $200!

I resold the rims along with the two good tires off my truck and made a $150 back. So after initial Purchase, Installation & Balancing, and the discount for re-sale to the tire dealer, I shelled out a total of only $80! Not toooo shabby I'd say : )

Thanks for all your help guys! Now, on to my next mission, beef up my rear suspension a bit and we'll see if I can make this truck last the summer too : P Then, maybe then I'll be ready to work on the boat :D

[Aric11]

Wait, I did my math wrong, I spent $110, still pretty good though : )

[FisherMan]

I know it does not matter now, but for future reference, 2 different tires are bad on newer vehicles. Each wheel has a speed sensor that does alot of things. They communicate with the computer for each tire speed. From there it runs your antilock breaks to other things as well, and can throw warning flags in your computer if it calculates 1 tire making more or less revs a min than the others. Low tire pressure lights etc will come on. So make sure you try and keep all 4 the same if possible.

[Aric11]

Thats good info to know thanks :D I will deffinitely keep that in mine when I go for my new Durango...whenever that may be :S

[FisherMan]

No Problem, Anything i can do to help ;)

[JESTERxHEAD]

kinda off subject... but I just replaced the rear wheel sensor in my exploder a couple weeks ago...it wasnt agreeing with the front tires and it was about 8% off on the speed. When I was in a parking lot the ABS would kick in on narrow turns. I first thought it would be one of the front ones but the speed was off and I had a 33.3% chance it was that one. BTW there were no ABS light codes.

[FisherMan]

ABS light codes will not come on if the computer is getting info from all 4 tires. As long as it can get that info it will not think anything is wrong. So if one sensor goes bad and it tells the computer the wrong info, it will kick in the ABS when breaking because accoding to teh info it thinks one tire is slipping.

For example, on my truck 2 months ago, when I would come to a stop sign, and as I was breaking, as soon as I hit the 5 mph and under my bas would kick in on a dry non slick road. I took it in and put the computer on it and it told me the drivers side front speed sensor was causing the error. Now I had no lights on etc. And the speed sensors on most trucks and cars are buildt into the wheel bearings so teh entire unit has to be replaced. So I unhooked my abs until the bearing came in that I ordered. Then my ABS light was on. Once I replaced that bearing, hooked the ABS back up,, all was good.

The reason I said light can come on is that if your vehicle has Low Tire Pressure Warning Lights, they are run off the speed sensor, they calculate a tires rotation, and just a 1/4 of a pound in air pressure difference will change the tires rotation speed because its actually a smaller diameter than the rest.

Sorry this is long lol, just wanted to explain this in better detail so you know how it all works :P

[JESTERxHEAD]

Yep.... tire pressure was the first thing I checked. This case was also under 5mph. My trucks arent that special to have tire pressure sensors I still have to check them the old fashion way. hahahahaha

hey where abouts are ya in wisconsin?

[FisherMan]

Just south of Medford. How about you? Normally when a sensor goes out, thats the first sign if it still partially operational.

[JESTERxHEAD]

oh I am in Rock Island, il... bout 6 hrs. south of you....

My family every year took fishing trips just north of hayward, I think I need to introduce my wife to lumberjack competitions.....