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October 9th, 2009, 10:13 PM
Was online window shopping for a mota,found a boat and mota for not much more than a mota.Would of course have to sell the beloved jag,but its underpowered needs much more hp,and a lil work still.
boat is a 90 model looks decent,trailer is ruff,motor is an omc moded 200 ,detuned to only 90+ for fishing
have pms out emails out waiting for replies,nothing set in stone depends upon if it drives ok at 90+
October 9th, 2009, 10:17 PM
Question: Is Steve goin' on the maiden voyage with ya'?
Been nice knowin' ya' Steve. Tell the wife to send me the address and room number of the hospital you're in n' I'll send ya' a get healed quick card!
I'm real curious as to why an Allison requires a fin????
October 9th, 2009, 10:21 PM
That was a semi joke have never driven one before let alone at 90,figgure if I can wing it at 65 it will do
October 9th, 2009, 10:22 PM
LOL... yeah, I know... I was semi-jokin' too!
October 9th, 2009, 10:23 PM
That one still has cable steering doesn't it? Or did the previous owner move it over to hydraulic?
October 9th, 2009, 10:25 PM
That was one of the ? I asked in an email,but since he quotes 90 + figgure it has been changed,but not certain
October 9th, 2009, 10:30 PM
Not so li'l grasshopper.... Allison was runnin' 110+ with cables for a long time as he did not trust hydraulic until SeaStar had him design one that suited him... That's what I have on my gambler now. SeaStar HC6345. The standard cylinder/ram is HC5345
October 9th, 2009, 10:34 PM
That is all true,have no idea till I hear back,may not want it who knows,and it may just follow me home
October 9th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Welp... good luck with which ever decision you make!
October 10th, 2009, 05:49 AM
one thing i know fer sure you aint jumping in that rig and doin 90 fer quite a while. they aint the easiest rigs to drive. Takes a lot of seat time to get her over 70
October 10th, 2009, 06:39 AM
If I could drive it 70 feel comfortable while doing it np,if it gets parked next to the jag it will look very small indeed.
October 10th, 2009, 07:23 AM
I'm ready when you are, when are we test driving it?
October 10th, 2009, 08:10 AM
Havnt even heard back from him as yet,pm s,emails,wearing a hole in the floor doesnt seem to help
October 10th, 2009, 11:13 AM
Shute hopped on it shortly after it went online and someone else is viewing it this weekend ,as the guy is coming to boat races right below there.
Maybe he wont show,lol
Meanwhile im not driving 4 1/2 hrs to find it might not be available,so going back to looking for a mota.
October 11th, 2009, 04:57 AM
Ole mule......you surprised da hell outta me thinking bout getting into a hotrod boat......but I hope da best of luck on getting it. If it doesnt come through fer ya.....lemme know........I am sure that I can help ya out on repowering the Jag. By the way.....POST UP A PIC of the Jag. Would love to see it. I know where there a couple of strong warantied OMC's if ya gonna stay wit them but know where there is a GREAT and I do mean GREAT buy on a 2.5 200 Merc that has only 20 hours on it.............Ifn I had the money I would buy the boat AND the motor......keep the motor and resell the boat and end up with a FREE boat and trailer. Motor is sittin on a Hydrstream Vulture that is in PERFECT condition. That 200 pushes the vulture over 80 with ease. You wouldnt belive who had had his hands on the motor. When they bolted here up the manwas friends........and very good friends with the head of "Merc Racing Division"before he passed on.
October 11th, 2009, 05:08 AM
I dont think a smallblock merc is gonna have enough bottom end grunt for that
boat. He needs a merc big block but a repower from a OMC to Merc is gonna
lead to a lot of hidden expenses that come up after you start the change over
and too late to go back. Been there many times hmm I should make a list
and post it on the tips board
October 11th, 2009, 06:33 AM
Under my name ,my albums all kinds of jaguar boat pics.
Rather odd 22 ft-95 in beam, bent nose critter with a very steep angle to a 22 in transom,there fore 25 in motors are of need.
That allison is somewhat like the boat you were talking about,free boat if ya buy da mota.
Most of my boating life took what was on a previous boat and made it do on the newer boat until could be replaced,like a 90 hp in line six from a 15 ft skeeter to a 17 ft phantom and a jackplate rite hite on five successive boats,changing them out myself in the backyard or garage or last time in the barn I have here,did you know those belt buckle boats straps make a nice motor winch,to hold in place while you take off a 5 in hyd jp and replace with a ten in.
As for a motor replacement was looking to spend between 5 and 6 k no more than 7,or less,just happened upon this boat motor combo.If I were to get it the jaguar would have to go up for sale,I just cannot afford another boat yard ,had three in the front yard right after moving here.
That allison with a different powerhead has seen 107 in the 1/4.Its not a pro comp either.Top pinned pistons,hyd steering, Titus lower and its a shorty.
And dont figgure ill ever drive it much past 70 here on ky lake,three times a year in july it gets glass smooth.
Had the jaguar up to 63 but regular steering,with prop exposed to much torque.
Parked side by side the jaguar will look overpowering to that wee boat.When parked next to the 21 ft glassport made it look like a 19 ft boat,one just can not grasp how massive it is in general.
And definately it wont be the stable fishing platform the jag is,will have to strap myself to the mast er front seat to stay on board.
October 12th, 2009, 08:52 AM
The jaguar if propped lower will run 60 mph comfortably,and is suitable for just fishing the way it is,but for T fishing desiring a long run to say like hole 178 it is lacking.
If I repower will be with omc as setup that way,Nickols has a good running 225 ho, ,unfortunately most of that stuff is 20 in.
Soon to find out,may be a jaguar for sale as cannot afford two boats and upkeep.
If that is so will certainly miss the very large stable deck,which when the lake kicked up wasnt large enuff at times.Im talking about sitting and fishing in 3- 5 ft rollers.
Then again may just have to change tactics some,currently when others are fishing ledges im back in the bays so deep,can get out and walk ashore without wetting my knees,when they come into the bays in the fall im out at the entrance on the points,again that shallow,they call them the breakers here.
Ill have to ask Red how they fair fishing out of them in that kind of stuff.
Ive always heard they were to get you to the fishing first ,fishing out them taking a second.May end up actually fishing in more protected waters at times,but all things are sort of a tradeoff,if it can get me from paris landing to 178 (70 mile round trip)and back,july,aug,sept,Then you can keep your ledge fishing,for the most part.As can average 16-18 pds a day fishing shallow in 80 deg water.
The ledge 21-29lb bite isnt normally viable those months.It takes current for that and they generate at night only then.
October 13th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Ive run into a snag,my ira loan amt now has a cap on it ,guess they are afraid I might end up getting some of it ,product of the economy and current administration so most likly will wait on a decent motor.(OMC).Still working on it but iffy.
Would consider other brands but only if controls cables went with it for nothing extra,as dont really want to get into that.And actually prefer omc.
October 13th, 2009, 07:46 PM
Sorry to hear that. When I switch my intruder to the merc I had to change the controls from the other boat as well. In my case I bought boat and all, so no extra cost involved.
October 13th, 2009, 08:02 PM
May end doing that as well who knows,biggest problem with jag is that 22 in transom and 25 in lowers it takes,not plentifull other than salties,present motor works just need more hp,its a huge boat,for a bb
Havnt exausted all efforts as yet still hope
October 23rd, 2009, 06:58 PM
One 1990 2002xb is sitting in my driveway.
Much in the way of thanks goes to Steve Huber who went with me sharing the driving and testing,in the absolutely pouring rain.
I had it on plane bit hard with the gas pedal a mile away,Steve a having longer reach being taller had it to 6,000 and sawing.It is quite tightly wound.Will take a bit of seat time at anything over 70.Power is correctly defined as a Johnson 200 MP .
October 23rd, 2009, 07:12 PM
Congratulations! How's it feel being a new daddy?
October 23rd, 2009, 07:46 PM
It is an interesting little go-fast fishing sled, that's for certain!
It jumps up on plane and wants to run. But it isn't a boat that anyone will be able to drive and it's going to take some seat time to learn to run it well.
The first run I made was a little ragged, but the second one was a lot better and I think I got the tach to 6,500 rpms. It will be interesting to see what that speed translates to once the gps is installed.
But the boat is solid, in pretty dang good shape, especially for the age and it'll get him from Paris Landing to Hole #178 in good time if ol' Mother Kentucky Lake is in a good mood. Time will tell how the boat will handle her if she's feeling snotty!
We have a little work to do, getting rid of the electronics and replacing them with better, pulling the OMC trolling motor and replacing that (I had a bigger TM in college for mixing drinks for parties) and some cleaning and buffing.
I took my camera along, wanting to get pictures of Lil Mule and his baby, but with the way it was pouring down rain, the camera never left my rainsuit pocket :(
But Lil Mule got his dream boat for a fair price and I got to help a friend. How much of a better day can someone have?
October 23rd, 2009, 07:52 PM
What prop was on it? Sounds like a good day for all... 'cept for the stinkin' rain. Don't ya' just hate it when that happens!
October 23rd, 2009, 07:53 PM
Way to go congrats.:cheers:
October 23rd, 2009, 08:23 PM
Nuttin' like a new toy to play wit!!! Congrats on da catch Lilmule:cheers:
October 23rd, 2009, 09:27 PM
Good one there lilmule in gettin ya new ride mate...!!!!!. Look's like the jag's out on it's ear..!!!We need some pic's...????:cheers:
October 24th, 2009, 08:13 AM
Believe it or not a 27 p shooter,they said their best runs were with a 29 rx I believe.
Manual allison jp even with the pad.NP getting on plane,pops up like a cork,even with the lack of a lot of bulit in cup in the prop,it saws air ,and no I didnt saw Steve did,my short lil legs barely hit the gas pedal,which is also set way over to the side of the boat.
And the only thing anyone will see unless I desire different is da azz end,then again you can always listen to where im at 1/2 mile away you can pick out the engine.Not noticeably much from the front,but anywhere else including passenger seat it quite is.
October 24th, 2009, 08:26 AM
I'm strictly guessing here but I wouldn't think an Allison would require much cupping....
October 24th, 2009, 08:34 AM
Think your correct there,as way its built it sits,with the front end waiting to grab air,as for the rain some of the best things happen in the pouring rain,we also discovered hole 178 in the pouring rain,it rained 4 to 6 lb bass that first day quite often.
Was good for us for three solid weeks practicing and taking everyone and their brother in to do a lil fun fishing with them getting at least a 4 lber or two,then on the T day we had been practicing for,permitted an additional 20 duck hunters in the field with the bass,and us till taking over 17 lbs out of her.
Would a camo allison fit in well?
October 24th, 2009, 08:56 AM
I"ve been rained on with pellets.... Iffen I were you I'd paint that suck'a day-glo orange with Hi-visibility chartruse letters during hunting season with the following message:
"NOT A DUCK NOR A DEER - DON'T SHOOT!"
October 24th, 2009, 09:04 AM
What?? Is something in the water?? Man thats great, congrats on the ALLY...
I will be out testing a truck load of props today on mine..
My first run last sunday I bumped 87 and backed off...Can you say "TOUCHY"... Have fun but be careful, we have to craw before we walk..
Lets see some pics..Hey your 28 chopper would be a good test wheel..What pitch/brand do you have on it?
October 24th, 2009, 09:55 AM
27 shooter,its supposed to touch 90
Hanvt had it back out as yet have some things to add like depth finder,gps,be a few days
Change in gas pedal,maybe a higher cushion as one is sitting on the floor he had the wire frames removed from seats as a tall fella,but think current cushion will work.
Then will run with current prop,until I feel a little more comfortable behind the wheel,doubt if conditions here on ky lake would allow for a top end run until maybe next july
And then only if I learn to drive it,havnt a clue right now but not worried it goes faster with me not even sawing than anything ive ever driven before.Rest will be up to the lake..
The important thing is should be able to run the lake 52-70mph,most of the year,and higher when conditions permit.It really doesnt matter if it will do 92,if running much over 70 will spear a wave when a freak comes along with more space inbetween.
Boat has hit 92 with current setup and seasoned driver,along with advanced timing.And with a different powerhead 107 in the 1/4.
You might very well pass me .but due to the driver most likly,not lacking anything under.
Consider it quite RUDE with an attitude.
Boat was on same website where you got yours at.
Uses 87 oct fuel,but does not get as good fuel milage as most allisons due to the porting,timing is more retarded now.
Holley fuel pump.titus lower,hyd steering
October 24th, 2009, 11:03 AM
Well, lemme know if you want me either along with you when you go out, or if you want me to trail along behind in the Triton and keep an eye on you.
October 24th, 2009, 12:06 PM
Be a few days,but we can go fishing out of it sometime this next week,that would be the tryout,as more concerned about a working boat than a super fast one.Running same holes I normally do as a comparison.If and when its setup for me,then will just extend my range of fishing about 30 miles,or so.
The fish finder that was in the boat does work and is a gps,but shows no depth contour.apparently on the Hiawassee and Nickajack they dont concern themselves with that as marked well but it is quite unnerving in those narrow slots with rock and big rock all within say 50 ft.
We were within a few miles of Guntersville,on the Hiawassee when testing the boat.
Wife loves the lil raskal
October 24th, 2009, 10:17 PM
Lil Mule is now experiencing some computer issues. So he emailed me a shot of his new baby. Here's a shot. Hopefully I'll get some more soon for him.
October 25th, 2009, 03:59 AM
Thank's for the photo fella's...!!!! Gettin a boat yard goin there lilmule(lol).Nice rig..:cheers:
October 25th, 2009, 08:26 AM
Lol at one time last year had three
two of those are gone now
glassport 21 ft and a 19 1/2 ft ranger 373v
Had the jag parked over at the house like 50 ft away
So it did somewhat resemble lilmules boatyard
heres the jag and the ally
the only part most will see is this
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