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Island Breeze
October 26th, 2009, 07:15 AM
This is an attempt to explain the art of spooning as I see it. These are just my opinons and the way I do it, not necessarily the right way.
First of all I think that the first thing most of us do wrong is to not do it enough. My first couple of times I'd try for 15-20 minutes then give up and pick up a jig. The next most important thing is good electronics and knowing how to use them. I generally use spoons in the winter when the bait and bass go deep. Using my electronics I'll locate schools of shad around deep structure ie. underwater humps, river channels etc.. In my experience if I find the bait the bass are usaually there even if I can't see them on the screen.Now that we found them then what.
I use mostly one spoon, a hopkins 1/2 or 3/4 oz. solid hammered chrome. I'll occasionally use a flat sided chrome kastmaster as well. The most common way to use them is by vertically jigging them. If your finder is dialed in right you can watch your spoon on its way down almost like a video game. Position your self right over the school of bait and drop the spon straight down when it hits bottom give a small gentle lift of the rod tip, then lower it quickly so you can keep in contact with the spoon. I find if I get too aggressive with lifting the rod I don't get bite just slow 10-12 inch gentle pops. Other times I'll stay in contact with the bottom and using short 4-6 inches pulls and drops of the rod tip so the bait kind of flip flops on the bottom. This really works well when the water is cold and the bass and not very active. Most of the time the bite is very soft you may just feel a little weight as you lift the rod, or see your line stop before it hits bottom either way take up as much slack as possible and set the hook. I like to use a 7'6'' med/heavy rod. I feel the spoon better and the long rod makes it easy to take up slack and get a good hook set. Here I generally fish in 20-60+ feet when spooning so the long stiff rod is very important in feeling and getting those fish.
The other times I may use a spoon is when the bass are busting on the shad on the top.I can cast these guys a mile which allows me to stay way back and not spook the school. I'll cast past the school and with fast short jerks I'll pull the spoon right through all the area where the bass are pushing the shad to the surface. The trick is a fast retrieve to keep the spoon at or slightly below the surface. I'll try this when they refuse to hit a fluke or rip bait etc. A fast reel also helps here.
I always add a split ring to the front of every spoon and change out the stock trebels for a sure set trebel dressed with a feather and mylar .
I also only use 10-12 lb. flourocarbon line.
I think the best way to learn any bait is to go out and fish for a day or two using nothing else It may get frustrating at first but if you stick with it you'll usually get the hang of it.
There are other ways to spoon and other types of spoons but this is what I use and do. I hope this was informative for some of you.

Dougw
October 26th, 2009, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the information. Maybe I've been jerking it up a tad hard. But I think you are correct with the stick with it. Even if that means putting nothing in the boat but spooning gear for a day. Whooo boy that's gonna be hard to do though.

Island Breeze
October 27th, 2009, 06:47 AM
Thanks for the information. Maybe I've been jerking it up a tad hard. But I think you are correct with the stick with it. Even if that means putting nothing in the boat but spooning gear for a day. Whooo boy that's gonna be hard to do though.

Thats how I learned to fish a spoon and a jig, nothing else in the boat. Got to tell you though they were probably two of the longest days on the water until I finally got bit.

Dougw
October 27th, 2009, 06:51 AM
I remember the very first jig fish I ever caught. Santee Cooper at night wasn't havin' a lot of luck so for the halibut picked up a jig... Chukin' at the base of cypress trees.... [plop] line starts moving off.... and I'm thinkin' "What tha' heck is wrong with that jig?" Then the "duh" moment quickly followed by a hook-set. Now a jig is one of my primary go-to baits.

Island Breeze
October 27th, 2009, 07:06 AM
Know what you mean. I don't know how many fish I didn't set on in the begining but now the jig is something I know I can get bit on anywhere, anytime.

jkk
October 27th, 2009, 08:33 AM
That's good info I'm the same used them a little but got bored with it need to try and it again and stick with it

kipp
October 27th, 2009, 09:11 AM
Man I know a guy that does not catch much bass with worms or cranks but let the water get cold and put him in the boat... spoon and sometimes a dropshot..he kills them..I told him the other day that this year is going to be different for me instead of feeling "stupid skunked"...thanks bonsai

Dougw
October 27th, 2009, 12:34 PM
The thing I've noticed most when jig fishing is... You gotta stay at it. Seems to me without fail... there is a 45 min. or so(could be more... could be less) window in the morning when I catch most of my jig fish followed by another window of equal duration in the afternoon. If you're not pitchin' a jig when the window is open - you'll think a jig won't catch fish. No, it's not always that simple but for me, by and large, the window concept has been proven over and over again.

Island Breeze
December 13th, 2009, 09:26 AM
Since its the time of year that spoons are used most does anyone else have any other tips or suggestions?

Nichor02
December 14th, 2009, 12:47 PM
I don't have any tips on it. This is good info though. I will try that this year and see what I can do. Tried spooning years ago, and like you said, I gave it about 10 minutes, and was through with it.

JEVPhoenixBass
December 14th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Bonsiabp,
I spoon a lot on Table Rock and Bull Shoals year round. As far as how to work the spoon I let the fish tell me that. Some days it's little movements, some days it's snatch and grab. This time of the year deep spooning the trees for suspended fish works well however, don't forget to give them a toss at the docks. I fished a derby this weekend on Table Rock catching fish on spoons, jigs, and grubs taking second place while the guy who one was spooning the outside edges of dock by simply casting to the corners and letting the spoon free fall to the bottom, snatch it up once then reel it in.
One thing I've learned is when you're vertical jigging the spoon take a minute to lift the spoon just off the bottom and hold it there for a bit. I do not use a swivel and the spoon will sit there in place and slowly spin.........

frugalangler
January 4th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Q: when you refer to winter, that is vastly different across the US, so can you identify conditions such as air temps, water temps, length of time at those conditions, seasonal trend (upward/downward)? This would help localize the conditions to where an angler lives/fishes.

Island Breeze
January 4th, 2010, 08:51 PM
for me winter means water temps starting to get below 52 or so to about mid to high 40's never much colder here. Sometimes airtemp may be 45 others 75. Whenever the fish are relating to deep (relatively speaking) balls of bait fish or just suspending over deep water. Seems to work better from me when temps are heading down rather than up. I also have seen someone spoon a 5fish 32 lb bag at Clear Lake in July so who really knows for sure.

KonaKustoms
January 4th, 2010, 10:21 PM
I don't have any tips on it. This is good info though. I will try that this year and see what I can do. Tried spooning years ago, and like you said, I gave it about 10 minutes, and was through with it.

Hey Nichor02 Just ask your wife she will show ya how to spoon. My wife wont let me get close enough to her to spoon with her anymore we have been married to long.......LOL

I cant believe nobody took this here already......Funny as heck to me!

Have a great nite guys im going to bed.

casey
January 4th, 2010, 10:41 PM
I love spoons.
you can catch bass all year long on a spoon.