I looked the Trokar hooks today while I was in Wally World. I just ain't giving 7 bucks for 4 hooks. Just ain't worf it to me. I hate giving the 5 for the Gama's. hadn't done that but a few times. you and me both nickor, ill just set the hook a tad harder on my mustads and those dudes still aint cheap! they are worlds better than the tru-turns i grew up fishing though, and after well over 30 years of my dad fishing tru-turns ive got him to see the light and hes using mustads and gamakatsus now